Thomas W. Sefton (TCA 59-360) TRAIN INVENTORY | ||
Lionel State Sets: | ||
You
older collectors know me. For 15 years, I worked for the bank Tom Sefton
inherited in San Diego and also served as Tom's toy train curator and
beard. Plus, I was responsible for his private railroad car and knew him
well. On Tom's layout, we ran several State sets. The near like-new
Brown set was run as 5-cars using the repainted extra car listed below,
I wired two 381E's together to run on one reverse unit and it pulled a
7-car Green set. I placed small colored sticker dots on the bottoms of
Tom's various State cars so that the original sets could be put back
together in the future.
Tom died in 2006. He would be spinning in his grave if he knew that Communist Chinese reproductions (paid for with his money) were being run at the California State Railroad Museum in Sacramento rather than his original trains. Luckily he was in dementia when the gift was made. On a properly designed layout, one could put can motors in original equipment and run it for hundreds of years. Tom ran with original motors for 40 years and never had any damage. I was there at the worst when a 408E split a switch and the whole consist hit the floor (Tom wired passenger car sets together so their lights wouldn't flicker -- the engine pulled the cars down like a snake). Persian rugs, so no damage. An operating museum layout need not have any switches with working frogs. Derailments wouldn't happen since if blown up to scale, standard gauge wheel flanges are a foot high! When was the last time you saw a derailment (at reasonable speed) on a closed loop of track? Tom also used fine wire to ensure couplers would not separate. |
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Set 411E | 1930-31 | "Transcontinental Limited" two-tone Brown 408E-412-413-414-416 Light Brown ventilators, cast journals Original Boxes plus Set Box LN- Each car has a 3/8" square shiny area knocked off of the paint to the left of the left door's top handrail stanchion. The original owners had a Christmas Garden that they set up each year and one time an unknown accessory clipped each State Car in the same spot as it went by. |
Note: | I arranged to buy this set from Ron Hollander for $14,000. We gave him a lot of time and info for his Lionel book. Then when published he sent us paperback editions saying the hardbacks cost him too much. A TRUE cheapskate circa 1984. I then sold Tom's prior VG Brown State Set to a Doctor in Detroit. It ended up in the Richard Kughn (Lionel) collection.. | |
Set 411E | 1929 | "Transcontinental Limited" State Green 381E-412-413-414-416 lighter Green ventilators, Apple Green windows (Red Dot) EX+ |
Set 411E | 1929 | "Transcontinental Limited" State Green 381E-412-413-414-416 lighter Green ventilators, Apple Green windows. EX (A O Johnson estate) |
Set 409E | 1930 | "The Olympian" State Green 381E-412-413-416 lighter Green ventilators, Apple Green windows (Black Dot) VG 3-car set. |
Set 409E | 1933-34 | "The Olympian" State Green 381E-412-413-416 lighter Green ventilators, Ivory windows, brass journals, rivet detail on ends of cars; LN 3 cars |
Note: | This set came this way. Collectors think that Ivory windows meant 400E. Not so. The 381E 3-car set was catalogued from 1930-1934, but only very late sets had end rivet details. The 400E set 3-cat set was catalogued from 1931-1933. Greenberg shows a photo of a 433E set box stamped "GM" and "Brown-Ivory". This means a Gunmetal 400E with three Brown state cars. Obviously there was little consistency. | |
Set 433E | 1931-33 | "Twentieth Century Limited" 400E-400T-412-414-416 Black loco and state Green cars with dark ventilators and Apple Green windows. Note Illinois car which is found in some 3-car sets. Loco EX; Cars VG |
Extra State Cars: | ||
414 | 1930 | Restored two-tone Brown; EX |
416 | 1929 | State Green observation, Apple Green windows; LN This car was in a glass showcase in Tom's office at San Diego Trust & Savings Bank. It was a magnet for his many visitors Do you have any old trains at home? |
Extra State Locomotives (Not inventoried with a set) | ||
408E | 1930 | State Green Restored |
381E | 1929 | State Green VG- |
381E | 1929 | State Green G+ (Durango crawlspace, Harley Sefton Penetrol story) |
381U | 1928 | State Green, Yellow Box w Track (not spread out) EX |
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